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	<title>Comments on: Klassen&#8217;s 2010 Agenda &#8211; Muzzle Taxpayer&#8217;s &amp; Raise Taxes</title>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can anyone confirm the &quot;mastermind&quot; Rocky Scott has now been retained to negotiate a no-bid lease at the loveland airport for a Denver company? has something to do with exclusive fuel sales and for some reason they are paying the mastermind to work his mcwhinney magic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can anyone confirm the &#8220;mastermind&#8221; Rocky Scott has now been retained to negotiate a no-bid lease at the loveland airport for a Denver company? has something to do with exclusive fuel sales and for some reason they are paying the mastermind to work his mcwhinney magic.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Snyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry: Can you cite the figures which will prove that growth does not pay for itself? The developer has to install the streets and pay for the sewer and water connections. These costs are passed on to the home buyer, various fees and taxes for parks, the fire district, the library, schools, and other expenses are also tacked on either at purchase or attached to the annual property tax assessment. Those who purchase the house will usually do at least some of their shopping within the city limits, which generates more revenue for the city and county through sales taxes. To collect these sales taxes retail businesses must be allowed to build or expand (without subsidy or credits from the government in my version of utopia) and traffic arterials need to be in place to allow the consumer (both from local and out of town sources) easy access to these businesses. If you want a community to be self-sustaining, you must also have manufacturing and service companies present so that you are not just a bedroom community, so growth is important to the viability of a community. Just take a leisurely drive to Walden if you want to see a community dying do to lack of growth, and after all, we wouldn&#039;t have this website if it weren&#039;t for the rats leaving the sinking ship of California!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry: Can you cite the figures which will prove that growth does not pay for itself? The developer has to install the streets and pay for the sewer and water connections. These costs are passed on to the home buyer, various fees and taxes for parks, the fire district, the library, schools, and other expenses are also tacked on either at purchase or attached to the annual property tax assessment. Those who purchase the house will usually do at least some of their shopping within the city limits, which generates more revenue for the city and county through sales taxes. To collect these sales taxes retail businesses must be allowed to build or expand (without subsidy or credits from the government in my version of utopia) and traffic arterials need to be in place to allow the consumer (both from local and out of town sources) easy access to these businesses. If you want a community to be self-sustaining, you must also have manufacturing and service companies present so that you are not just a bedroom community, so growth is important to the viability of a community. Just take a leisurely drive to Walden if you want to see a community dying do to lack of growth, and after all, we wouldn&#8217;t have this website if it weren&#8217;t for the rats leaving the sinking ship of California!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Leo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 17:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lovelandpolitics.com censors comments. Lovelandpolitics.com edits comments. Lovelandpolitics.com is a fraud.

And Lovelandpolitics.com is currently under investigation by local, state and federal law enforcement, including the FBI for criminal activities. Just because Lovelandpolitics.com is an LLC doesn&#039;t mean you are above the law. 

No one is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovelandpolitics.com censors comments. Lovelandpolitics.com edits comments. Lovelandpolitics.com is a fraud.</p>
<p>And Lovelandpolitics.com is currently under investigation by local, state and federal law enforcement, including the FBI for criminal activities. Just because Lovelandpolitics.com is an LLC doesn&#8217;t mean you are above the law. </p>
<p>No one is.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 21:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Leo, 
  What was censored?  Your post came through.  Sounds like an unjustified complaint to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Leo,<br />
  What was censored?  Your post came through.  Sounds like an unjustified complaint to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Leo</title>
		<link>http://lovelandpolitics.com/blognew/2010/01/10/klassens-2010-agenda-muzzle-taxpayers-raise-taxes/comment-page-1/#comment-4970</link>
		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You criticize Mr. Klassen for censorship and yet you do the very thing.

Does the word &#039;hypocrite&#039; mean anything to you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You criticize Mr. Klassen for censorship and yet you do the very thing.</p>
<p>Does the word &#8216;hypocrite&#8217; mean anything to you?</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 01:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take issue with Responsible Citizen&#039;s last remark.  Growth is the main reason the city (i.e. citizens&#039;) costs keep going up. It never pays for itself. Every new rooftop costs more to serve than it pays in total taxes.  And rooftops follow commercial, so that&#039;s hardly the way out of the jam.
Make growth pay its own way, and the City would have plenty of revenue to keep pace with service demand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take issue with Responsible Citizen&#8217;s last remark.  Growth is the main reason the city (i.e. citizens&#8217;) costs keep going up. It never pays for itself. Every new rooftop costs more to serve than it pays in total taxes.  And rooftops follow commercial, so that&#8217;s hardly the way out of the jam.<br />
Make growth pay its own way, and the City would have plenty of revenue to keep pace with service demand.</p>
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		<title>By: Responsible Citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Responsible Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 05:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Local retail suffers when people do their shopping on the internet.  The city had no way of knowing the internet would steal so many purchases from local merchants and now need to make up for lost revenue.

Councilman Klassen is doing exactly what he should be doing -- taking care of the city&#039;s balance sheet and looking out after local businesses.  I wonder if the person running this blog knows anything about business or the need for the city to raise money.  How do you think all the police and fireman are paid??????  Do you support letting them go because greedy citizens buy things cheaper on the internet even after visiting the store and trying on the stuff they want to buy?

The internet tax is necessary to support local services and make up for lost revenue.  We need growth to pay for the rising costs of services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Local retail suffers when people do their shopping on the internet.  The city had no way of knowing the internet would steal so many purchases from local merchants and now need to make up for lost revenue.</p>
<p>Councilman Klassen is doing exactly what he should be doing &#8212; taking care of the city&#8217;s balance sheet and looking out after local businesses.  I wonder if the person running this blog knows anything about business or the need for the city to raise money.  How do you think all the police and fireman are paid??????  Do you support letting them go because greedy citizens buy things cheaper on the internet even after visiting the store and trying on the stuff they want to buy?</p>
<p>The internet tax is necessary to support local services and make up for lost revenue.  We need growth to pay for the rising costs of services.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 03:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Admin,
  thanks for the interesting explanation. I trust your sincerity about lack of partisan bias.  If you went further, democracy comes from the Greek &quot;demos&quot; (people), and the rest of the word and origin of the suffix &quot;crat&quot;, comes from the Greek &quot;krátos&quot;, meaning &quot;power&quot;.  Hence, democracy meant literally, &quot;power to the people&quot;.
  However, the name McWhinney is an English-translated name of Irish (Gaelic) origin; and it is no more of Latin origin than Greek.  And, given that all of the persons in question (McWhinney, candidate McCrea, Clark, Klassen) are Republicans, it still seems more appropriate to call them &quot;McWhinneycans&quot;.   Or how about, &quot;McWhinneyites&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Admin,<br />
  thanks for the interesting explanation. I trust your sincerity about lack of partisan bias.  If you went further, democracy comes from the Greek &#8220;demos&#8221; (people), and the rest of the word and origin of the suffix &#8220;crat&#8221;, comes from the Greek &#8220;krátos&#8221;, meaning &#8220;power&#8221;.  Hence, democracy meant literally, &#8220;power to the people&#8221;.<br />
  However, the name McWhinney is an English-translated name of Irish (Gaelic) origin; and it is no more of Latin origin than Greek.  And, given that all of the persons in question (McWhinney, candidate McCrea, Clark, Klassen) are Republicans, it still seems more appropriate to call them &#8220;McWhinneycans&#8221;.   Or how about, &#8220;McWhinneyites&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Administrator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Administrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 01:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Publica is a the Latin origin of Republic meaning &quot;Public&quot; thus deserving the Latin suffix -can.  Democracy is a Greek word &quot;demokratia&quot; thus deserving of a Greek suffix of -crat.

Latin is full of adjective forming suffixes and Greek noun forming suffixes so the modern rule is to use Greek suffixes for non-Latin words.

The suffix - crat - in Greek means &quot;One who advocates or practice rule by&quot; which seems most appropriate in this situation.

No political bias is intended just that crat is the proper suffix for words ending in y like democracy, bureaucracy and McWhinney.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Publica is a the Latin origin of Republic meaning &#8220;Public&#8221; thus deserving the Latin suffix -can.  Democracy is a Greek word &#8220;demokratia&#8221; thus deserving of a Greek suffix of -crat.</p>
<p>Latin is full of adjective forming suffixes and Greek noun forming suffixes so the modern rule is to use Greek suffixes for non-Latin words.</p>
<p>The suffix &#8211; crat &#8211; in Greek means &#8220;One who advocates or practice rule by&#8221; which seems most appropriate in this situation.</p>
<p>No political bias is intended just that crat is the proper suffix for words ending in y like democracy, bureaucracy and McWhinney.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that Rice/Mccrea is Republican, like Clark, Klassen, and company, right?    So why not call her a &quot;McWhinneycan&quot; candidate...it would be more accurate than the label you use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that Rice/Mccrea is Republican, like Clark, Klassen, and company, right?    So why not call her a &#8220;McWhinneycan&#8221; candidate&#8230;it would be more accurate than the label you use.</p>
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