I think "element" is code for Mexican. I think we should keep the swim beach open even if too many Mexicans are using it.

People who live around the lake need to get used to Loveland's changing demographics.
--Tony

I know people with the homeowners group that controls the water recreation rights to Lake Loveland. It may be true that just a few people aren't happy with the swim beach, most fully support it.

The City of Loveland already telegraphed in advance their desire to close the beach and discussions regarding who pays the cost of moving the sand and other details were already discussed. Some HOA people offered to fence the beach for private access only but the city doesn't want to secure the area with police so it has to be done by the private security company hired by the HOA.

Even if the Council says yes the staff may have opened the door to the HOA not to renew this year.

I think people on the Westside of town are getting the shaft. No pool at Loveland High and now closing the beach. It will hit home prices on the Westside of town if the city provided recreation is removed.

What next? Turning the golf courses into open space?
--Josh

I know people with the homeowners group that controls the water recreation rights to Lake Loveland. It may be true that just a few people aren't happy with the swim beach, most fully support it.

The City of Loveland already telegraphed in advance their desire to close the beach and discussions regarding who pays the cost of moving the sand and other details were already discussed. Some HOA people offered to fence the beach for private access only but the city doesn't want to secure the area with police so it has to be done by the private security company hired by the HOA.

Even if the Council says yes the staff may have opened the door to the HOA not to renew this year.

I think people on the Westside of town are getting the shaft. No pool at Loveland High and now closing the beach. It will hit home prices on the Westside of town if the city provided recreation is removed.

What next? Turning the golf courses into open space?
--Josh

What is Aggers talking about?? We have been using the beach for years and I don't know the lifeguards so i guess I am from out of town to their eyes.

Our children started using the swim area as small children and still do as teenagers - what is wrong with that?
--Barbara

It really isn't a big deal. Closing the beach will have very little impact on residents. I say close it and get rid of the head-ache.
--XX

By all means, close the beach and become a town of elitists like Ft. Collins!! I have a business in Loveland but I live in Ft. Collins and I have always felt that Loveland was much more "resident friendly" than Ft. Collins. I guess that was the Loveland of bygone days. Too bad, we have too many a-holes in the world as it is.
--Greg R. Snyder

I agree with Mr. Snyder - there are too many a-holes in the world. I just read the city staff report on your site www.lovelandpolitics.com/swimno1 and it sounds like a lot of whining to me. Its too difficult to get lifegaurds, too many people of the wrong "element."
I also don't know any city of loveland lifeguards so am I the wrong element from out of town?
I am tired of parks and rec managers who provide services for their friends, nieghbors and associates but don't want to serve strangers.
The beach is a huge asset to Loveland and taking it away only makes the rec staff jobs a little easier that is what this is really about.

Mr. Snyder, you and your family are welcome on our beach anytime you like!
--Carol Y.

I don't get it. What's the big deal with keeping the beach open? Is the city paying large & growing costs to maintain it? Are nearby residents complaining about noise? A link to crime? My girls like to wade over there, not a big deal or even an every week trip, but why take it away?
--Steve

Hey - I saw the music video on YouTube and came to this site. As a Lovelander I never saw anyone take on the cabal that runs our town.

I don't normally look at Youube but my son saw the video and said, "it Rocks"

I like the video but you should concentrate more on the McWhinneys and the real desicion makers since Council doesn't appear to be in-chare anyway. I think they are well meaning and nice people who just got in over their heads and feel they need to do what they are told.
--84AndMore

Love the music video - tells story most people in town feel frustrated with but the Herald will never report!.

LovelandPolitics ROCKS!
--Chris

I see no reason to close the beach. It hurts the west side of town and takes away a major reason people come to the park in the summer. I have never known any of the lifeguards at the beach, am I the "wrong Element"?
--Tonbre