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Entry for October 24, 2006
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Steve Dozier pushed the City Council to make a desicion on the Visual Arts Council (VAC) authority regarding the placement of art in the community.  He was able to get the support of Councilmembers Brown, Skowron and Clark to direct staff to prepare an ordinance that gives the Council "ultimate authority" over art in the community.  Elections and other schedule conflicts will push the issue into mid-November for consideration.  Gene Pielin reminded his colleagues that the new Councilmember elected November 7, may make the swing vote on this issue.



Have you asked either Ward 1 candidate how they would vote?  Post any comments below - thanks


2006-10-25 06:15:03 GMT
Comments (20 total)
Author:Anonymous
I agree but don't understand why Jan Brown needed to eat cookies over her expensive new chair during the entire meeting. Hey, taxpayers paid a lot for your chairs so please don't drop cookie crumbs all over them.

I support the desicion and found Pielin to be a weasel unable to confront any difficult issues.
--Art M.
2006-10-25 06:20:30 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Good move, finally they will stop acting like Bush on immigration by saying they have no control. The Councilors are really responsible and should make the best desicion for the community.
--Janey Wells
2006-10-25 06:22:11 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Thanks LovelandPolitics.com for reporting this news. The Councilors really need to consider just moving the Triangle statue away from the new middle school. If I am driving to drop-off my son at the new middle school I don't want to explain to my younger daughters why a man's circumsized penis is staring us in the face while we go through the round about. The VAC is arrogant and I would prefer to see a few more roads get fixed instead of paying $70,000 for another threesome statue.

This has nothing to do with art just good taste!
--Jana Armando
2006-10-25 12:22:17 GMT
Author:Anonymous
If its too obscene for public display why do you have a picture on this website? Art is art is art. I don't care if they have three men in a "triangle" right in front of an elementary school at 200 times life size instead of 150% of life size. People need to understand that Loveland has become an art community so move back to West Virginia if you find art offensive.

By the way, I know the only complaints I heard from some people involved on the VAC is the sculpture looks to be less than life-size at least from their perspective.
2006-10-25 15:41:17 GMT
Author:Anonymous
I thought comments here were supposed to stay on topic. What does President Bush on immigration have to do with art in Loveland? Apparently the rules here do not apply equally to all.
--Roger
2006-10-25 16:18:38 GMT
Author:Anonymous
I guess metaphors are OK even bad metaphors. So in that respect, the example of Bush and borders refers to inaction on the Council over the sculpture not the sculpture itself.

I like the sculpture and believe we need to all accept it the way it is no matter where it is placed. I could think of many more ugly things that could be in its place like a Marostica sign (boy I am tired of those)even though he told me he supports the arts council so my hat is off to him for taking this bold stand against the crazy fundamentalist crowd in town.

I attended the meeting where counsel tried to decide what to do and saw wierd people saying Triangle would cause rapes. This is crazy, people need to get a life and move-on.org.

Time to make Loveland a more sophisticated community and leave the arts council in-charge of what is art instead of the reactionaries on counsel.



--Ashu Choudrey
2006-10-25 17:12:47 GMT
Author:Anonymous
I agree with Jana Armando who posted above. This is not the appropriate location for such a piece of art. I think the carving is beautiful; however, I think “The Triangle” should be displayed away from schools with minor children. In addition, I think the city council made the correct decision that they should have the last word on art in the city.
Who are the arts commission members anyway? They were not elected; as far as I know, they were appointed. I have a predominantly negative opinion about the city council, but I still think elected officials should be the people to decide such matters. Because they were elected, and perhaps in some cases bought, the city council should have the final say because they are elected officials.
I am going to close this mini op-ed piece with a message to Don Marostica: I think there are a number of citizens in and around Loveland who are at the end of their rope when it comes to what you have done to the East side of this city. Believe me, Mr. Marostica, the end of a rope is not a nice place to be.

Mark Sanchez, A.S., B.S., M.S .
970-690-6123

--Mark Sanchez
<mailto:mark@catlab.us>
2006-10-26 01:57:43 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Mr. Sanchez shows the courage we need in this town to stop the special interests from running this community. Remember how McWhinney promised the Flat Iron Crossing Mall was the style he would build here? Too bad everyone is too affraid to stand-up against these bullies.

I feel like we live in some episode of gun smoke where Marostica and his henchmen tell everyone what to do and Larry Walsh (our Mayor) urinates himself in fear everytime he sees Marostica or his little buddy Fritzer.

Even the Reporter-Herald Editor has his tail tucked deep between his legs while trying to wright endorsements that will not upset Marostica or the Lehmens.

Mark Sanchez - you ought to run for Mayor of this community so we will have someone to get behind and finally be accountable. You can be our Matt Dillon!
--Sharon O&#39;Donnell
<mailto:odonnell@aol.com>
2006-10-28 18:42:03 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Ms. O'Donnell,
Thank you for your suggestion. However, I would not want to take the pay cut of an elected official ($30,000). Of course that excludes the return on investment most of the elected officials get from what is invested in their campaigns.
I hope the citizens of Loveland do not elect Marostica, because people like me may have to remove them, using methods other than the voting booth.

--Mark Sanchez
<mailto:mark@catlab.us>
2006-10-28 21:54:38 GMT
Author:Anonymous
FYI - Please be clarify exactly what you mean. If that is some kind of threat I will need to remove your comments. I want this to be an open and free forum but cannot allow any kind of threat to a candidate. If you mean a recall or something that is fine but something more is not acceptable on this web blog


Thanks
--Guch Wale
2006-10-29 02:54:14 GMT
Author:Anonymous
What I said was an opinion. Nothing more nothing less.
--Mark Sanchez
2006-10-29 03:17:56 GMT
Author:Anonymous
How did the topic of 3 naked people and the bickering of the city council turn into threats against Marostica?
2006-10-29 03:31:37 GMT
Author:Anonymous
The remarks above are protected speech pursuant to the First Amendment of the United States Constitution as defined by the U.S. Supreme Court as follows: "Brandenburg v. Ohio" 395 U.S. 444, 447 (1969) AND; do not constitute a "true threat" as defined by the U.S. Supreme Court in the case "Virginia v. Black" 538 U.S. 343, 359 (2003) as well as U.S. Supreme Court decision of "Watts v. United States" 394 U.S. 705 (1969) Id. at 708 which specifically applies to this type "political hyperbole"
2006-10-29 03:43:36 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Signed Mark Sanchez
2006-10-29 03:45:51 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Back on topic, the head of the Visual Arts Council (after reading LovelandPolitics probably) resigned his position. Sounds like a premadona to me. In fact, the Reporter Herald took some time before reporting the story. Glad I checked here and saw people were already talking about it.
--MNM
2006-10-29 06:34:14 GMT
Author:Anonymous
I heard that Klassen has told people he will vote to approve removing the statue. Cecil (his opponent) doesn't agree. If this is wrong let me know. I notice you seem to get hundreds of hits every day on this site so they should come online and let everyone know exactly what their positions are!

By the way - great site
--Larry
2006-11-01 03:31:08 GMT
Author:Anonymous
If Klassen supports moving or removing the statue, look out: The Reporter-Herald will launch a smear campaign against him the likes of which have never been seen, since they thrill in immorality and pervsion
--Doug
2006-11-01 19:40:24 GMT
Author:Anonymous
No they will not. Klassen is a part of the Good Ole' Boy network in town and he will be protected. Jan Brown or someone like that will be attacked since the Herald hasn't the courage to take on anyone else.
--Janey Wells
2006-11-01 22:24:57 GMT
Author:Anonymous
Thanks Janey - great comment!

The Good Ol' Boy network only exists if we allow - let's not allow clowns like Klassen and Marostica to be elected -

We have a voice - let's use it!


--Melissa
2006-11-02 00:39:54 GMT
Author:Anonymous
I agree. Well, Scott Doyle (County Clerk) screwed-up the Loveland City Council election. Klassen went to vote for himself and Marositca and discovered his name was missing from the ballot. At first, Doyle said only 7 ballots were this way but I live in Ward 1 and my ballot had no city council race either.

No political gaming here just an inexcusable screw-up on Doyle's part. He is now blaming the California vendor he hired to print the ballots.
--John
2006-11-02 16:23:33 GMT
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